CDS Pricing in Increasing Treasury Default Risk
Yves Smith
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Nov 2, 2008
We have noted that Treasuries (and the dollar) are the remaining bubbles, although some doubts are starting to surface on the Treasury front. Paul Amery at Prudent Bear gives a good recap:
More on this topic (What's this?) Issues with CDS margin requirements. (Bapcha's Stocks., 10/27/08)
Lehman Brothers: a primer on Credit Default Swaps (Credit Writedowns, 10/11/08)
CDS Market: It's Crunch Time... (Dead Cats Bouncing: Musings on t..., 10/5/08)
Originally published at Naked Capitalism and reproduced here with the author' permission.
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Yves, even Roubini doesn't sound quite this negative. Is this a high-probability scenario, or just a fit of catastrophizing on your and other market participants' parts?
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By Anonymous on 2008-11-02 09:51:44
All I can say, is wake up ! Go look at the stock boards, the quicksand of debt is sucking the investors under. One day we jump up to say 700 points, then the next few days, we lose more then we gained. The Fed is pumping all this cash into circulation and nothing is happening. The reason is, the Fed printed so much money, it's no longer holding it's value, but the Fed continues to think it's helping when it's really filling the pockets of CEO's and top henchmen. The tax payer can't take this anymore, it's hurting everyone. Another stimulus bill is'nt going to do anything either, the consumer is using it to pay down their own debts and nothing is going into the real economy as Bush thought it would. He thought people would go buy a nice new digital TV or whatever, but it did'nt happen. Consumers are in survival mode right now. They could care less about needless material items right now.
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By John on 2008-11-11 18:28:09
1.Credit crisis worsens and the money supply starts to shrink for lack of credit. The economy begins it's descent into a deflationary spiral. Unemployment goes into double digits.
2.The federal reserve starts lowering interest rates and there is a fire sale on US debt to the rest of the world. 3.Deflation worsens, unemployment increases and the federal reserve tries to stave off a depression by 'fixing' the money supply by sending the overnight funds rate to zero. 4.The banks take this 'free' money and put it on their balance sheets by paying off debt or giving out dividends or buying back shares or sending it overseas or into hedge funds or any other way they can pocket the money. Loans are at the very bottom of the bank's lists to use the money. 5.The federal reserve tries threatening the banks into lending but the banks ignore them. Stymied the federal reserve is paralyzed and does nothing. Congress and the President step in and attempt to inject liquidity directly into the market by making large emergency tax cuts and rebates. 6.The federal deficit soars. There is a crisis of confidence in the solvency of the US dollar. The market for US debt dries up. 7.Facing imminent bankruptcy the federal government passes laws allowing them to take money directly from the federal reserve in order to finance day to day operations. 8.The markets realizes that the US government is going to risk hyperinflation and inflate their way out of debt. Everyone tries to unload all the debt they bought and as a result trigger the very hyperinflation they feared. 9.Globalization fails spectacularly. The massive sale of US debt and the following hyperinflation turns the US into a monetary black hole that sucks liquidity out of the global market. The US has just stolen trillions of dollars from the entire world by selling dollar based debt and then hyper inflating it. 10.The global economy goes beyond depression into a complete economic collapse.
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By Anonymous on 2008-11-13 01:35:32
Could the Fed be preparing to squelch these rumors by "regulating" credit default swaps?
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE4AB1L720081112
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By Anonymous on 2008-11-13 16:55:19
http://usacreditdefault.blogspot.com/
I transferred the data from the chart above onto 4 cycle semi-log graph paper. Doing so I was able to accurately project the US Treasury curve into the future. On semi-log paper the curved data points make a near perfect straight line, thus I can extend the line and calculate when CDS line will cross: 100 basis points = 27 Feb 2009 200 = 15 Apr 2009 400 = 15 Jun 2009 1,000 = 15 Sep 2009 10,000 = 15 May 2009
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By phishna on 2009-03-06 13:52:12
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