More on China's Faux GDP Data
Barry Ritholtz
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Nov 20, 2009
Back in October, I laughed off the latest China GDP data as utterly fabricated.As it turns out, I was not the only one. China expert Gordon G. Chang (author of The Coming Collapse of China) is more than skeptical — he has the data to question much of China’s growth miracle. Spoiler alert: Its been wildly exaggerated:
Gee, whoever would have guessed that a Totalitarian government would lie in its official data? Previously: Who Believes China’s ‘Bernie Madoff’ Data? (October 22nd, 2009) http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/who-believes-chinas-bernie-madoff-data/ Source: China’s 8.9% Growth? No Way Gordon G. Chang Forbes, 10.23.09 http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/22/china-growth-gdp-economy-opinions-columnists-gordon-g-chang.html Originally published at The Big Picture and reproduced here with the author's permission. Opinions and comments on RGE EconoMonitors do not necessarily
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Property: The Bubble that Keeps on Inflating
China Economist
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Nov 19, 2009
In recent weeks I have read articles in the economist arguing that there is no bubble in Chinese property. I am not in that camp and believe that there is a bubble that is getting to dangerous proportions. At last the FT is taking this issue seriously. I will not repeat the reasons - some are covered below. Just think Japan in the late 1980's and Japan's subsequent growth rate ever since. The problem is a lack of alternative investments for the cash rich in China and loose lending by out of control banks. This article represents a useful introduction. Fears of China property bubble [FT]
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Pictures of Pollution in China
China Economist
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Nov 18, 2009
The blog post title says it all. These are great pictures that should be seen to be believed. Some make for very depressing viewing and are very far from the hotel in central Beijing that I recently stayed at. Amazing Pictures, Pollution in China [China Hush] Originally published at China Economics Blog and reproduced here with the author's permission. Opinions and comments on RGE EconoMonitors do not necessarily reflect the views of Roubini Global Economics, LLC, which encourages a free-ranging debate among its own analysts and our EconoMonitor community. RGE takes no responsibility for verifying the accuracy of any opinions expressed by outside contributors. We encourage cross-linking but must insist that no forwarding, reprinting, republication or any other redistribution of RGE content is permissible without expressed consent of RGE. Lecturing Each Other on Trade
Michael Pettis
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Nov 18, 2009
My meetings in NY and DC were fairly different from the meetings I had in February. This time around I got the impression that far more people in the US (although still a minority) understand how risky the Chinese recovery has been and how trade tensions are likely to result as a consequence of the stimulus. In fact I have the sinking feeling that over the next two or three years I am going to find myself spending an awful amount of time thinking or writing about trade disputes between China and the rest of the world.Regular readers know that for me the key source of China’s high savings and trade surplus is the large excess of the growth rate in national income over household income, caused in large part, I believe, by policies that systematically transfer income from the household sector to investment, SOEs and large producers. Until these policies are reversed I do not think it is meaningful to talk about China’s rebalancing. Just before President Obama came to China President Hu gave a speech which my friend Dan Rosen in his November 13 Rhodium Group report described as a “stirring speech about a policy big bang to promote consumption-led growth.” Dan is skeptical, and I am adamant – a surge in consumption will not happen except perhaps briefly as a consequence of government subsidies and anticipated consumption. In Washington I had the chance to meet someone I admire a great deal, Nick Lardy at the Peterson Institute, and although I shouldn’t put words in his mouth so as not to misrepresent him, I am glad to say that he seems to agree with the analysis of Chinese high savings as a consequence of policy-related constraints on household income growth, although he thinks currency undervaluation may have a greater impact on high savings than low interest rates, whereas I think it is the other way around. In fact more generally I think this argument has become increasingly influential, and more and more analysts seem to be taking it up, both inside and outside China. In that light I read earlier this week a fascinating and perhaps important article by Hung Ho-Fung in the current issue of the New Left Review, in which he argues that China’s development model has left it dangerously vulnerable to changes in US demand, and that these polices include repression especially of rural income. According to Hung: The PRC’s urban-biased development model, then, is the source of China’s prolonged ‘limitless’ supply of labour, and thus of the wage stagnation that has characterized its economic miracle. This pattern also accounts for China’s rising trade surplus, the source of its growing global financial power. However, the low wages and rural living standards that have resulted from this development strategy have constrained China’s domestic consumer market and deepened its dependence on the global North’s consumption demand, which increasingly relies on massive borrowing from China and other Asian exporters. As those other exporters have been integrated with China’s export engine through the regionalization of industrial production networks, the vulnerabilities of the Chinese economy have turned into weaknesses of the East Asian region as a whole. Hung goes on to make a point that I wish many more would make. When people like me warn about continuing domestic imbalances within China and the difficulty that China will face in its transition, we are often attacked for “blaming” and criticizing China. Monday I was at a conference consisting of many prominent European and Chinese (and a few American) analysts who were discussing global imbalances. At the end of one panel a member of the audience, who turned out to be from the Ministry of Commerce, demanded the right to make a rebuttal and set off on a fairly strange harangue in which she lambasted, to everyone’s bemusement, any attempt to assign China responsibility for any aspect of the crisis as well as any suggestion that its fiscal stimulus was worsening the underlying imbalances. China has not, apparently, made even minor policy mistakes at all in the past decade and especially in the past year. The nationalist argument China and the American Jobs Machine
Mark Thoma
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Nov 17, 2009
Robert Reich says China won't be abandoning its currency policy anytime soon:
While China's currency policy is certainly a worthy topic for discussion, lately we are spending a lot of time pointing our fingers at others and blaming them for our problems rather than engaging in the more difficult task of getting our own house in order. I'm not saying that we should ignore things that unfairly disadvantage us, whatever those might be, just that a continued focus on external factors provides a convenient excuse to avoid going through the difficult changes needed to reform our own economy, an excuse that can be exploited by powerful interest groups opposed to needed change (though Reich at least touches on the US side of the equation in a part I left out). Yes, China needs to change its currency policy, and the fact that it won't or can't change will probably lead to further economic imbalances, perhaps to dangerous levels, and cause increased political tension in the future. But I hope we don't allow the financial industry and others wishing to deflect blame for the crisis and avoid stricter regulation to use the controversy over China's currency policy to divert our attention elsewhere and alter the narrative about how we got into this mess. Originally published at Economist's View and reproduced here with the author's permission. Opinions and comments on RGE EconoMonitors do not necessarily
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China Lambastes Dollar “Carry Trade,” Diverting Attention from Its Currency Manipulation
Yves Smith
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Nov 16, 2009
What a difference seven years makes. No one had a problem with Japan having super low interest rates and stoking a global carry trade, nor with the US running overly loose monetary policy that led to a real estate bubble that spread its impact beyond our borders via the creation of toxic mortgage product sold far and wide. But one difference this time is now the dollar, rather than the yen, looks like the best funding currency, and the dollar is a deeper market, so the scale of potential damage is much greater. Second is that a lot of countries are running loose money policies, but they are at least making some credible noises re tightening (whether they follow through is another matter, of course). The US, by contrast, has made clear that it is keeping things easy-peasey for the foreseeable future. And the US (starting with the Greenspan era) has signaled any hawkish moves well in advance, so the odds that the Fed will have a sudden change of heart are just about zero. Now, to play devil’s advocate, one could argue that the loose money policy is warranted. There is tons of slack in the economy, unemployment is high and rising, capacity utilization stinks. Surely raising rates now would be the worst move possible, right? The authorities are completely responsible for the messes on two different fronts that intersect to create monetary policy dilemma. Going below 2% for Fed funds was a huge error (well maybe you could justify 1% as a very short term expedient), but the Fed is now painted in a corner. But second, and the much bigger issue, is that (as everyone can see) all this cheap money is not going into the real economy. A few very high quality borrowers are getting good rates; everyone else finds credit scarce and costly. So spreads are higher than before, and even absolute rates are often higher expect in markets like mortgages where the Fed has intervened. Now some readers will correctly say that overly loose lending is what created the problem, and we need to undo that, but they are conflating two issues. Tightening up on WHO gets credit and HOW MUCH they get is separate from pricing. If this was mere improved standards, you’d expect to see more discrimination within various types of borrowers. But instead, across entire swathes of borrowers, particularly consumers and small businesses, banks have simply turned off the spigot. This has little to do with a return to prudent practices. In fact, it illustrates a real cancer: that across consumers and many small business owners, old-fashioned multi-variable decision-making (which included some verification of income) has been replaced by heavily or entirely FICO based systems. Those systems failed utterly. But they were cheap to operate, banks have no intention of reverting to earlier, more costly approaches. So we have a credit assessment process that is broken, but no one wants to admit it. So if all this loose money isn’t getting to the real economy, there should be no reason not to raise rates, right? Wrong. This little procedure is again, entirely about the banks, screw the real economy and everyone in it. First, low rates (and now a steep yield curve) are an ideal setting for banks to make money. Greenspan pulled the same trick in the wake of the S&L crisis, and it enabled banks to rebuild their very wobbly balance sheets comparatively quickly (I’m amazed at the revisionist history about the early 1990s banking woes, which also involved pretty serious damage from dud LBO loans, and left the US banking system seriously undercapitalized). This plus high spreads makes ofr a very attractive environment for any new business. But the second reason for keeping rates low is explicitly to keep asset prices aloft. The bubble is an explicit goal of policy. Remember, early in the crisis, they was talk of the markets being irrationally depressed. Funny how it is only prices that are seen as inconveniently low, and not ones that are insanely high, that are criticized. But to cite Richard Nixon parodists: Let us make one thing perfectly clear. These monetary shenanigans are in no small measure the result of the utter failure of nerve late last year and early this year, to take sick institutions and resolve them. In many cases might not have entailed the bogeyman of nationalization (as in protracted government ownership), but throwing out the old top management and board, and forced debt to equity conversions. Cleaning up the banks was never treated seriously as an option, when the track record clearly shows that that is the fastest, least-cost way to deal with a financial crisis. China Slams U.S. for Inflating Global Asset Prices Via Carry Trade
Edward Harrison
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Nov 15, 2009
On the eve of U.S. President Barack Obama’s visit to China, a major Chinese official has criticized U.S. monetary policy in unusually harsh language. Liu Mingkang, China Banking Regulatory Commission chairman said the zero interest rate policy of the U.S. Federal Reserve posed a “new systemic risk.” Liu, using language reminiscent of warnings by NYU economist Nouriel Roubini and speaking at a financial forum in China’s capital Beijing, said:
In my view, this is pure political posturing by the Chinese in order to defuse any U.S. criticisms of Beijing’s currency peg. Call it a pre-emptive strike. The U.S. has seen the unemployment rate rise to 10.2% and the trade deficit rise quite dramatically as well. Many are blaming the Chinese and their currency peg to the U.S. dollar. The Chinese expect Barack Obama to deliver a message that his administration will find it increasingly difficult to hold protectionist pressures at bay given the Yuan’s firm peg to the U.S. dollar even while the dollar has plummeted. To prevent the U.S. from successfully painting the Chinese peg as the sole major risk to the global economic recovery, the Chinese must therefore point to the destabilizing measures taken by the U.S. to reflate its domestic economy. All indications suggest that we are now returning to the same unbalanced pre-crisis growth model – but with the global economy in a considerably more fragile state. In this climate, the issues of the Yuan currency peg and low interest rates in the U.S. will continue to be front and center going forward. Originally published at Credit Writedowns and reproduced here with the author's permission. Opinions and comments on RGE EconoMonitors do not necessarily reflect the views of Roubini Global Economics, LLC, which encourages a free-ranging debate among its own analysts and our EconoMonitor community. RGE takes no responsibility for verifying the accuracy of any opinions expressed by outside contributors. We encourage cross-linking but must insist that no forwarding, reprinting, republication or any other redistribution of RGE content is permissible without expressed consent of RGE.
The Dollar Party
Antonio Carlos Lemgruber
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Nov 11, 2009
As Robert Lucas, Nobel Prize in Economics, said recently: If we knew the timing of the next asset bubble, we would sell our assets one week before. Perhaps he was trying to show the futility of regulations and policies against bubbles. But his remarks - typical of a free-market brilliant economist - might represent the beginning of an authentic short-term "research program" devoted to the U.S. recovery and to the U.S. inflation. Yes, Bernanke more than tripled the monetary base and adopted a policy of benign neglect with respect to the dollar, hoping the currency would devalue, just like in 1933 when Roosevelt did the same thing and avoided deflation. The economic analyst’s task from now on is to guess the timing of the U.S. recovery and the U.S. inflation, because this will provoke a major change in U.S. economic policy: raise in interest rates and dollar revaluation. One might say that this will be the end of the present “dollar party” when carry-trades based on very short-term loans denominated in U.S.$ are financing all around the world purchases of risky assets denominated in dollars and particularly in other currencies- Brazilian stocks, U.S. stocks, Brazilian real, Australian dollar, oil, gold, sugar, etc. A party – but probably many bubbles. Undoubtedly, new asset bubbles were formed in 2009 leading to economic policy dilemmas in many countries. As a matter of fact, in the U.S., another type of monetary policy of the Greenspan style (without rigid inflation targets) would certainly have already led to higher interest rates. In Brazil, paradoxically, if you raise interest rates the real will appreciate even more, and if you lower interest rates the stock exchange will continue with the bubble. And so on. This dollar party was somewhat unexpected, after the seriousness of the 2008 crisis. But bankers and traders do not lose time: they perceived the carry-trade opportunity, with dollars at zero interest rates, even if only for a few days, and additionally with the currency devaluation. The mismatch between the U.S.$ loans and the long-term nature of the assets being purchased is dramatic, because after all - when things go wrong - liquidity disappears, particularly in countries (Brazil) where the exit doors are small and foreign exchange markets are thin( using the expression of Robert Mundell, another Nobel Prize). Our recommendation is to keep an eye on what's happening in the United States - as always. It is true that in cases like China (or even Brazil) the bubbles might burst before the U.S. interest rates go up and the dollar recovers for internal reasons and domestic policy mistakes, but in general the "negative" signs will come from the US. And the curious thing is that such "negative" signs will be derived from very good news: The US will be growing again at a fine pace without inflationary pressures. Our guess estimate is that this will occur in the very beginning of 2010 - not too far from today – after fourth quarter figures in the U.S. But let us keep researching carefully because the bets are huge.
The IMF on Asia's Recovery and its Sustainability
Claus Vistesen
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Nov 9, 2009
In case you had not noticed, the IMF is blogging
and it is not "merely" the garden variety IMF staffers they are rolling
out to fill the pages; nope here we are treated to the likes of
Blanchard, Atkinson, Lipsky, Cottarelli and a host of other of the
Fund's A-listers. Consequently, it would seem that in an already
(over)crowded world of econblogging, the IMFdirect blog merits more
than a little bit attention.
In the past week, the dual post coverage by Mr. Anoop Singh of the recent Regional Economic Outlook for the Asian and Pacific Region caught my attention in particular. In the first, Mr. Singh invokes among other things the puzzle of Asia's relatively sharp recovery given the notion that the region is largely dependent on exports to grow. Two reasons especially are important here. One is the simple fact that as these economies moved into the crisis with bulging coffers (especially on the reserves vis-a-vis the rest of the world), the room for fiscal manoeuvre was greater and it was used decisively. According to calculations by the IMF, the collective stimulus programs in the Asia-Pacific region added 1.75% to GDP growth in the first half of 2009 and it makes the programs even more generous than those observed in the OECD and other emerging markets. Secondly, Asian economies has benefited from the, so far, V-shaped comeback by part of the global economy and key regions who are likely to grow smartly in h02-2009. In general, Mr. Singh's analysis appears cautiously tied to the great unknown of 2010 where it appears that we will see whether all those battered economies of the world will be able to hold their own in a world where quantitative easing from central banks and lax fiscal policies are withdrawn rather than enacted. Here, Singh's remarks echo the general discourse where the the underlying tone is one of skepticism. A long period of risky asset buoyancy coupled with upbeat economic data releases have proved before to be crying wolf of an impending recovery and policy makers are advised to take this into account. It is hard for me to disagree with Mr. Singh that the green shoots observed in the Spring of 2009 seem way too shaky a foundation on which to build a narrative of recovery. Yet, this is exactly what has happened and the famous inflection point will be reached when we discover that the recovery observed thus has been because of and not despite monetary and fiscal stimulus which makes the enforcement of exit strategies going into 2010 a very interesting experiment in the making. Some will make it, some won't and some will inevitably fall back into recession (not just in Asia). However, the most important part of Singh's argument and indeed the most important part of IMF's analysis in general is the question of whether Asia's economic trajectory, in a post stimulus/recovery context, will be driven by domestic demand or not? To put it in the most reductionist form. Will Asia be a provider of net capacity to the global or economy or not? If yes, it would mean that a post crisis Asia had truly emerged as something new in the form of a force of a real addition to total demand. If not, it would mean that Asia would revert to old tricks and habits of relying on exports and foreign asset income to propel growth in national income. Now, leaving the question of the number of export dependent economies the world economy can muster neatly to the side, I am not so optimistic here on Asia's contribution to the rebalancing of global imbalances through a net expansion of domestic demand. Yet, let me also immediately qualify here that I am not very comfortable with talking about Asia/Pacific in one both because of the obvious heterogeneity amongst the economies, but more importantly; also because I am not really an expert here. I have done the analysis on Japan though and on this I can say with unequivocal certainty that we won't we seeing any provision of excess domestic demand from this side. Ultimately of course, Japan is of little real importance here and so is the rest of Asia really. What really matters on this topic is China and all the hopes currently pinned on her shoulders in the form of the ability of the economy to pull the global economy out of the mire. Traditionally, this has boiled down to a rather technical discussion about the RMB and an almost perennial Becketian wait for the shackles to break and an appreciating RMB to solve all problems. While I concede that the RMB should rise, it won't solve any of the underlying problems inherent in China's investment driven economy. Basically, chalk it down to culture and institutional specificity in the origin, but the simple fact remains I believe that just as China may evolve to become the economy we all hope and believe her to become (say in a 2020 context) the one child policy will have done its work so to speak and China will be sporting an OECD like age structure and is likely to even surpass many of OECD's economies. This is no recipe for an axis of rebalancing and although China will be the main story to follow for the immediate future I think we should look elsewhere to find the potential rebalancing candidates. This may indeed involve other parts of Asia (India for instance and Indonesia), but in the current discourse the likes of China, Japan (and Korea) hold little promise in terms of providing a decisive engine for rebalancing through sustainable growth in domestic demand which exceed the investment rate. In this sense I remain cautious on the overall sustainability of the recovery in Asia mainly because of my skepticism towards the sustainability of overall global momentum where I acknowledge that I may be very wrong. Watch out for 2010 and all those exit strategies is what I say and particularly for the "post fiscal stimulus" world. This also means that I am more than a little bit skeptical on the prospects of a sustained recovery across Asia driven by domestic demand, especially in relation to Japan and China. At least, this would be my humble argument here a murky Monday morning in Copenhagen. In any case, you might want to punch the IMFdirect blog into your RSS reader, just to make sure that you know what the IMF is up on a daily "research" basis. Originally published at Alpha.Sources blog and reproduced here with the author's permission. Opinions and comments on RGE EconoMonitors do not necessarily
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Asia's Corporate Saving Mystery
Anoop Singh
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Nov 9, 2009
As Asia starts down the path to recovery, it is going to have to tackle two issues which are constraining its long-term growth potential: firms that save but do not invest and wealthy households that are reluctant to consume. At first glance, such behavior seems inexplicable and counter-intuitive. Let’s imagine for a moment you are an investor—you may well be— you put quite a bit of money into a company to back its expansion plans. Initially, these plans prove successful, and the company makes quite a bit of money. But then the firm ran out of investment ideas. What would you expect them to do? Surely, you would expect them to return the money you provided, for example by paying it out as dividends. But in the past, prosperous decade before the current downturn this hasn’t been happening in emerging Asia. Firms have been sitting on their profits, not investing them, but not paying them out in dividends, either. That is a puzzle, and a problem. It’s a puzzle because it’s not obvious why firms should sit on money when they don’t have any need for it. When firms initially started doing this after the Asian crisis of the late-1990s, they had a ready rationale. They wanted to pay down their excessive levels of debt, which during the crisis had brought some of Asia’s largest companies low. But as the years went on, and debts fell, first to safe and then to low levels, it was clear that something else must be going on. There’s a further puzzling aspect. Economic theory states that households can “pierce the corporate veil” and extract value from a company even if it doesn’t actually pay out profits as dividends. That’s because the retained earnings would increase the firm’s net worth, which would be reflected in its share price. Households could then sell the shares, or borrow against them. Either way, they could spend more. This theory has been tested in empirical research and found to hold in advanced countries, and some emerging markets. But it doesn’t hold true in China or the rest of emerging Asia. Households simply do not consume more, despite holding valuable financial assets. Why does this matter? It matters because Asia’s corporate savings puzzle lies at the heart of its economic imbalances. It is precisely the substantial and growing excess of savings over investment in the corporate sector, coupled with subdued household consumption, that over the past decade has produced the region’s large external current account surpluses. We tried to analyze this mystery in Chapter III of the Asia-Pacific Regional Economic Outlook. We discovered two vital clues:
These finding have profound implications for policy. For example, the econometric estimates imply that if Asia were to reach the average level of corporate governance in advanced economies, it would be able to lessen corporate savings by as much as 2½ percent of GDP. Similar advances in financial sector liberalization could reduce savings by 5 percentage points. Resolving the conundrum of firms that save but do not invest, and households that hold this wealth but cannot consume may enable Asia to finally catalyze domestic demand. It could help to restore rapid growth, even in a “new world” of softer advanced country demand. Improved corporate governance and further financial sector development may be two remedies worth exploring. Originally published at iMFdirect and reproduced here with the author's permission. Opinions and comments on RGE EconoMonitors do not necessarily reflect the views of Roubini Global Economics, LLC, which encourages a free-ranging debate among its own analysts and our EconoMonitor community. RGE takes no responsibility for verifying the accuracy of any opinions expressed by outside contributors. We encourage cross-linking but must insist that no forwarding, reprinting, republication or any other redistribution of RGE content is permissible without expressed consent of RGE. |
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