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It is hard for the world to diversify away from the dollar when the world’s holdings of dollars need to rise by about a trillion a year

Brad Setser | Apr 11, 2007

OK, I probably should strike “world” and insert “the world’s governments” instead.  It is pretty clear that central banks and oil investment funds provided the bulk of the financing the US needed in 2006 (see Table 1.2 on pp. 8-9 of Chapter One of the WEO).  

However, at least one important government doesn’t think that it makes sense to add to its existing dollar holdings.  Xia Bin (an economist with China's Development Research Center), a few days ago:

'Everyone knows that they should try to cut their US dollar assets. But, of course, if China wanted to make such a move, a big cut, our losses would be large as well. That would be very difficult to do,' he said

True.  But adding to your reserves doesn’t reduce the ultimate loss.  It defers the realization of the loss, but it also increases the size of the ultimate loss.   But the key point Xia Bin raises is the first sentence – the idea that “everyone” knows that they want to hold fewer, not more, dollars.

Bin's statement is also hard to square with the fact that China's reserves increased by $135.7b in the first quarter alone.   Only about $5b of that likely came from the rising dollar value of China's existing euros and pounds.   A a $130b quarterly increase (ona  flow basis) is a $520b annual pace of increase -- a truly stunning sum.    China almost certainly added about $100b, if not more, to its dollar holdings in the first quarter alone.

Two trends seem to be to be in tension.

Trend one: The world’s key central banks have concluded that they have more reserves than they need, and are rapidly losing interest in adding to their dollar reserves.    China’s central bank has made it known that it thinks it has enough reserves.  Some in China think the PBoC already has far more reserves than it needs. Korea’s central bank has indicated -- at various points in time -- that it has more than enough salted away.  The ADB agrees.   So does the World Bank, the IMF, and for that matter, the US Treasury.   With good reason.    Read Olivier Jeanne and Romain Rancierre.   

The argument that Asia is building up reserves as insurance against crises no longer holds water.  The Asian central bankers themselves recognize they don’t need more reserves for prudential reasons.   Their external balance sheets are rock solid.  The domestic economic and financial risks that they worry about are augmented by continued reserve growth.

Trend two:  A slowing US economy may well need to rely more – not less – on central banks to finance its deficit.   The available data suggests that private investors are willing to finance a US current account deficit of $400-500 billion when times are good and US financial assets offer a bit of a yield pickup (and, for that matter, when the US offers a tax break that encourages US firms to bring their foreign assets home).    

In 2006, net private flows were more like $200-250b by my calculations -- which infers net private flows from the gap between the US current account deficit and estimated official asset growth rather than relying on the US data.   The net point is important -- private actors bought a lot of US corporate bonds, but US investors also bought a lot of foreign securities.   Moreover, I am effectively assuming some private purchases of US debt were indirectly financed by the growing offshore dollar deposits of the world's central banks -- the accounting can get a bit messy.

However, if US should ever start to cut rates -- and that seems a bit less likely now than a few weeks ago -- and the dollar lose its "carry" over the other big currencies, net private inflows might well fall.   Back in 2003 and 2004 they fell to $100b or so by some measures.  

Yet even a slowing US economy leads the US trade deficit starts to trend down, I suspect the US will need to borrow about $900, maybe a bit more, to cover its ongoing trade deficit and a rising income deficit.     That works out to an “official” financing need of up to $800b in a really bad case scenario. 

Trend 1 and trend 2 conflict with each other.  

So far, the tension hasn’t produced any policy changes.  All available data suggests that central banks – despite all the talk about tiring of dollars – actually increased their dollar reserve accumulation in the first quarter.   Look at the growth in the Fed's custodial holdings.

It takes a brave man (or woman) to forecast that this will change. 

I rather clearly underestimated central bank’s willingness to finance the US back in early 2005.   While central banks took advantage of the dollar’s strength in early 2005 to scale back on the their dollar purchases, all the available data suggests that emerging market central banks dollar reserve growth increased substantially in 2006.   We know that emerging market central banks that report data to the IMF added about $230b to their dollar reserves in 2006, up from $130 in 05, $120 in 04, $95b in 03 and $35-40b back in 2002.   

And the group that reports data to the IMF doesn’t include China or a lot of the oil exporters.    Add in an estimate of Chinese and Saudi flows (which could well be off … ) and total emerging market inflows to the US – proxied by the growth in dollar reserves -- have clearly remained on an upward trend (this chart comes from my recent paper with Christian Menegatti; RGE subscription required).

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Actually, there is a third trend.  OK, this isn’t yet a trend.   It is more of a prediction.  

Emerging markets increasingly will be financing not the expansion of the US trade deficit, but the expansion of the US income deficit.   If the average interest rate on US debt rises from 4.3% to 5.2% over the next two years and returns on FDI and US lending abroad remain unchanged, the total deterioration in the US income balance over the next two years will be close $200b.    The current account balance would consequently deteriorate by $200b even if the trade deficit stayed constant.  

Exporters in emerging economies -- and real estate developers who have benefited from the rapid money and credit growth that has often accompanied rapid reserve growth -- have been the obvious "winners" from the current international monetary system.  They are a strong constituency that supports the status quo.  I have consistently underestimated the power of China's export lobby.   China too has its interest group politics.

But increasingly the emerging world will be financing a US whose imports from the emerging world aren’t growing.  Remember, the trade deficit has to stabilize at some point.   The costs associated with financing the US won’t shrink.   But the obvious benefits will.

Rather than financing export growth emerging market central banks (and the Japanese Finance Ministry) will increasingly be financing interest payments to themselves.   At the end of 2006, I estimate that the world’s central banks – counting SAMA’s foreign assets and China’s hidden reserves -- held around $3.7 trillion in dollar reserves.   On current trends, that easily could rise by another $1.3-1.4 trillion over the next two years.   if the average interest rate on their dollar holdings rises to around 5%, they will receive a bit under $200b in interest from the US in 2007 – and that total will rise to around $250b in 2009.  

By 2009, counting all its foreign assets (not just its reserves) and counting euro and pounds as well as dollars, China should get close to $100b a year in interest payments.   By then its total foreign assets will top $2 trillion

I am starting to wonder what China’s exit strategy is.  On current trends, China will, after all, account for a very large of the growth in the world's dollar holdings over the next few years. 

China is now as deeply entangled in the messy business of financing the US as the US is deeply entangled in the messy business of governing Iraq.   And as a share of China’s GDP, China is spending more subsidizing US consumption than the US is spending in Iraq.  The surplus in China’s basic balance (net FDI inflows + the current account surplus) is now close to 15% of China’s GDP (the IMF estimates China's 2007 current account surplus will top 10% of its GDP, and their estimate looks low to me, given the q1 data).   That finances the buildup of foreign assets by various parts of the Chinese state.   And if the expected  appreciation of the RMB against a dollar heavy basket of euros and dollars that replicates China’s reserve portfolio is about 33% (which seems reasonable), the expected capital loss on the incremental increase in China’s foreign assets – one measure of the implicit export subsidy – is around 5% of China’s GDP.    

That is at least a rough estimate of the annual cost of China's current policy: a full accounting would look at the interest differentials, which right now offset some of these costs.

I think I know what the People’s Bank of China’s exit strategy is.   But a new People’s Investment Company just shifts the accumulation of dollars from one part of the Chinese government to another.   That doesn’t eliminate the loss, only shifts the loss to another part of the government.

Update: China's reserve rose by $135.7b in Q1, to $1.202 trillion.   Say $5b came from the rising dollar value of China's euros and pounds.  That leaves a $131b (roughly) increase.   The q1 trade surplus was $46.5b -- and the current account surplus is usually about $15b a quarter larger.  Call it $62 b.   That leaves a $69b gap between reserve growth and the current account -- which implies large capital inflows.  Say net FDI inflows were around $15b.  Then non-FDI inflows were around $54b.    Q4 reserve growth was lower than the estimated current account surplus plus estimated net FDI inflows.   So something changed.    Presumably the faster pace of RMB appreciation in q4 led folks to try to move into RMB, as expectations for RMB appreciation picked up (the stock market was also a draw).   But even so, the swing is huge -- I would guess that for some reason the PBoC stopped using swaps or doing other things to mask the pace of its reserve growth, so more of the growth in China's total foreign assets showed up on the central bank's balance sheet in q1.    

That though raises another question -- why would the PBoC suddenly stop shifting some of the incoming dollars to the banking system?   It is a bit of a mystery.   The implied swing in non-FDI inflows between q4 and q1 is truely enormous.  

Macroman has more as well.

Comments
Dr. Setser Do you have any comments on the newly release Foreign Reserve of China which is 1202 Billion USD. It has increased 135.7B in Q1(1066.3B by end of 2006). It's much more than the trade surplus of Q1, I just wonder where does the money come from. And thanks a lot for your brilliant posts, I've learned a lot. Cheers
Reply to this comment By Anonymous on 2007-04-12 03:20:48
And you wonder why I moan about these guys so much, Brad! In fairness, it's not just China- the pace of reserve growth in Russia and India has been just as parabolic over the past few quarters. At least Russia and India have permitted currency appreciation, however...over the second half of Q1, the pace of decline in $/RMB virtually ground to a halt. Who knows, maybe the authorities in Beijing have a bet to see how much they can get away wioth before getting called onto the carpet...
Reply to this comment By Macro Man on 2007-04-12 05:10:49
I won't cricize the recurrent underestimation of the potential role of private $ holders in any adjustment scenario. I won't criticize your dubious accounting of the "losses" that China would incur on its reserves once it appreciates the RMB - losses that you always count "gross", without counting the benefìts of that policy. I won't criticize your accounting of "how nuch finance the US will need" in future years, that you develop at given exrates without considering that a dollar depreciation may (a) substantially reduce the US CuA deficit, and also (b) substantially increase the dollar value of US assets abroad. I will instead ask two simple questions. 1) Would you clarify the following sentence? "...the expected capital loss on the incremental increase in China’s foreign assets – one measure of the implicit export subsidy – is around 5% of China’s GDP". 2) Do you agree with the following assessment of China's k-controls made today by an AP journalist? "Economists say the rising reserves are a sign not of financial strength but of China's failure to balance flows of money into and out of the economy. While investment and export revenues are pouring in, Beijing tightly controls the outflow of money, restricting outward investment by Chinese companies. Most companies and individuals need official permission to buy more than a small amount of foreign currency." Regards
Reply to this comment By Gheorghius on 2007-04-12 07:50:16
Anonymous -- thanks for the tip on China's reserves. I need to a rough estimate of valuation gains, but it sure looks look hot money flows. The q1 trade surplus was @ $60b. the Current account is about $5b a month larger than the trade surplus and China gets about $5b of net FDI inflows -- which works out to about $90b a month. the recent increase looks bigger. Gheorghius -- 5% of GDP is my estimate of the annual increase in the size of China's capital loss from holding $ assets against RMB liabilities. basically, an incremental increase in reserves of 15% of GDP v a depreciation of 33%. you could argue that over time, reserves to GDP ratio will fall b/c of growth but i would counter by arguing the size of the real appreciation is also increasing over time. what i left out is any carry gain -- Incidentally, the rising $ value of US assets abroad doesn't get rid of the US need to borrow funds. The US either has to realize the capital gain by selling its assets (financing a deficit by reducing its assets) or borrow against the rising $ value of its assets, which requires actual cash loan from the rest of the world. It capital gain impacts the balance sheet, but it doesn't change the flows in that scenario. MacroMan -- I hear you. global reserve growth has gone parabolic my measures as well. it approached a $1 trillion annual pace in q1, and looks to have topped that in q1 (a bit depends on the oil exporters)
Reply to this comment By bsetser on 2007-04-12 08:21:47
Macroman, The Federal Reserve should be called onto the carpet from their gross mismanagement of US monetary policy. The dysfunctional US Credit system has been creating and disbursing $1 Trillion of new IOUs every year – additional purchasing power – to sustain Credit and Economic Bubbles in mortgage finance. Considering the subprime mortgage fiasco, the Federal Reserve has been completely negligent in oversight of the banking system. I mean how much lower in lending standards can we go when absolutely no income documentation is required for subprime and Alt-A mortgages. Even illegal aliens have been provided subprime mortgages in California. The sheer amount of lending abuses and corruption to be uncovered will be mind boggling. Instead of investment into high-tech industrial production, the misallocation of capital has been into million dollar McMansions everywhere from coast to coast. The United States will be lucky to avoid a hard landing recession or even depression.
Reply to this comment By Dave Chiang on 2007-04-12 08:47:45
Gheorghius -- for what it is worth, i do disagree with the AP statement on China's capital controls. China has loosened the controls on outflows a lot -- however, right now, no one wants to take their money out of china. Note that the BoC's $ mutual fund flopped (part of the QDII program). The available data suggests massive inflows (see my comments on the q1 reserve growth). And it is clear that directionally, China has been making a big effort to clamp down on inflows (to contain reserve growth) while encouraging all sorts of outflows. To be sure, outflows are still regulated, but the controls have unambiguously been loosened. right now China is on track to add $500b to its reserves -- if $400b goes to $, that is enough to finance almost 1/2 the US current account deficit. That is insane. Absolutely insane.
Reply to this comment By bsetser on 2007-04-12 08:59:25
Brad At this economic juncture, Chinese economic strategy in regards to its cache of US Dollar foreign reserves, is to minimize the damage to its economy when the dollar-centered global financial regime unravels. China is certainly recycling some of what it earns from trade surpluses to buy natural resources, companies, technology and oil wells abroad. But more investment flows are coming into China than are leaving it; this is what finances the factories that dot the Chinese landscape and the skyscrapers sprouting everywhere in its cities. Meanwhile, China’s current-account surplus translates into a vast build-up of dollar holdings. Whatever else China’s leaders may think about the United States, they can have no illusions that the dollars they have accumulated can ever be redeemed for anything close to their current purchasing power values. The Chinese also hope that when the dollar-centered global financial regime unravels, they will have an economy sufficiently developed to withstand the economic shock. With booming inter-regional Asian trade, unless the US Economy plunges into a depression, the continental Chinese economy is rapidly rising to the critical mass for self-sustaining domestic growth. That will allow it to deal with the collapse in American purchasing power when the US is finally forced to live within its means. The political fallout is another question entirely. The collapse of the dollar will take with it the US global hegemony project; the United States will be hard-pressed to sustain its global military reach in a world where it must earn euros or yen to pay its foreign creditors rather than print more Federal Reserve paper.
Reply to this comment By Dave Chiang on 2007-04-12 09:14:36
Out of curiosity, Dave Chiang, is China culpable for anything, in your view? US monetary policy mistakes, which I concur were committed, happened in 2004-2005, not 2007. US monetary policy is not the answer why China decided to take the piss by drastically increasing FX reserves while slowing RMB appreciation in Q1 of this year. You seem to throw eveything back at US policymakers while refusing to acknowledge the slightest problem with Chinese policymaking. So I'm asking- * does intellectual piracy occur in China, or is it Hollywood's fault for making crappy movies? * does pollution occur in China, or is Britain's fault for starting the industrial revolution? * does Chinese food ever cause indigestion, or is only McDonald's?
Reply to this comment By Macro Man on 2007-04-12 09:20:27
Macroman, Yes, there are bootlegged copies of Hollywood movies available on the streets of Beijing or Shanghai, but it really is a stretch of the imagination for the US trade representative to claim that the Chinese government isn't doing anything about it. Vendors and manufacturers of illegal movies are already thrown in jail for 500 illicit copies or more; does the US government now want the Chinese government to execute the street vendors? Illegal drugs including cocaine and pot are freely available on the streets of Newark NJ and the Bronx NY, but that doesn't mean the state police aren't doing anything about it. By the way, considering the amount of bootlegged music available on the internet, the absolute dollar value of piracy in China is only a fraction of the United States.
Reply to this comment By Dave Chiang on 2007-04-12 09:32:06
Thank you.
Reply to this comment By Macro Man on 2007-04-12 09:36:39
DC -- I have to say that holding a huge share of your wealth in dollars is a strange way to protect yourself against the collapse of a dollar based int. financial system. seems like a good way to get burned. China has about 1.4 trillion in foreign assets -- if @ 75% of those are in $, it has about $1 trillion in dollars (not all US securities -- this includes a lof of cross border bank claims). That total will likely reach $2 trillion by the end of the year (barring a change in the pace of reserve growth). the $ total will be $1.5 trillion ... which sure seems to me like a ton of exposure. again, i ask, what is China's exit strategy? It ain't like 08 will be much different on the current policy course ... MM -- it sure seems like China's policy response has been to the slow down the pace of appreciation to deter hot money ... which, as you note, could well set the stage for a new one-off reval. Jon Anderson has recently suggested that the odds of this approach, while low, are rising. China has a real dilemma. hodl the line of the rMB to contain speculative inflows, and the trade balance will continue to balloon (and protectionism will grow). let it appreciate gradually and all of taiwan will have their savings in RMB before the process is over ...
Reply to this comment By bsetser on 2007-04-12 10:16:10
Brad In the long course of world history, every fiat currency paper issued has ultimately devalued to its true net worth which is just the value of the paper it is printed on. No one has illusions that the dollars they have accumulated can ever be redeemed for anything close to their current purchasing power values. In contrast, "Real" economic wealth pertains to tangible assets including natural resources and especially high-tech industrial production. Foreign direct investment has surpassed $700 billion since China began accepting overseas' investors money, that has developed the Chinese economy into an Industrial Superpower, which from a strategic perspective to the Chinese leadership is paramount. Whether the PBoC agrees with this strategy is immaterial, since the central bank defers major monetary decisions to the State Council which has other overriding concerns over unemployment, national security, and industrial modernization. The continental Chinese economy is rapidly rising to the critical mass for self-sustaining domestic growth.
Reply to this comment By Dave Chiang on 2007-04-12 10:45:09
DC -- no one would be happier than i see to China start to enjoy self-sustaining economic growth. But it sure seems that the implicit export subsidy from the PBoC is continuing to support China's growth -- net exports have contributed 2-3% to growth in 05 and 06, and if anything, the recent data suggests that they may contribute more in 07. and i don't quite share your idea that the fall in value of China's paper assets is of no concern(China also has paper liabilities, but they aren't expected to fall in value as fast). China effectively traded a lot of hard work and sweat and labor (real goods) for paper ($ assets) that you suggest will be worthless -- how can that be a good deal for the people of China?
Reply to this comment By bsetser on 2007-04-12 10:54:12
In the end, isn't it all the lesser of two evils for China? At some point their current pattern of growth is going to bite them in the behind. It is all about which head (reserves and sterilization, currency or export/investment promotion) does the biting. It seems to me the Chinese government is trying to be as rational as possible while hoping time might provide some answers. It seems inevitable that someone, or more probably lots of someones, will suffer at some point. While in the long run China's economy will most likely remain strong, the government's fear of social stability and remaining legitimate may cause more pain than if they faced their problems more quickly.
Reply to this comment By Anne on 2007-04-12 11:13:27
Thankyou for your replies, with which I mostly agree. Three points 1) I also disagree with AP comments (k-outflows hampered by the authorities, etc.); they are surprisingly out of touch with what seems to be going on in China: massive and growing expectations of a big real appreciation of the RMB. 2) On how to count the costs & benefits of Chinese reserves, you write "what I left out is any carry gain". Yours seems a curious way of counting: for carry gains are precisely the reason why people invest in dollars. And these are substantial gains, when you sum up all the years in which they yielded nice gains. As an aside, when writing about the expected losses on Chinese official reserves, to be fair I think one should mention, from time to time, that China's developing strategy has also produced a fantastic rate of growth. I don’t refer so much to the contribution of net exports in recent years (demand side), but to the contribution of imports, total trade, and FDI (supply side): part of the merit should be given to China’s international economic relations, of which the stable exrate (and reserve accumulation) is a piece. 3) On the excessive accumulation of reserves in China, however, I agree since a long time: “That is insane. Absolutely insane”. Indeed, in March 2003 I called for an 8% appreciation + a new (crawling) peg of the RMB to a representative basket of currencies. A few months ago I forecasted (on this blog too, as you may remember) that China’s exit strategy will be a one-off big revaluation. I even forecasted that it will happen in June 2007 (conditional on a serious US growth recession, to less, at least, than 1% in Q2. If the US growth in Q2 is higher than 1%, then the RMB appreciation may be delayed. The higher the US rate of growth, the more the June deadline may be postponed by Chinese monetary authorities). I also forecasted in October/November 2006 on this website that the chain of events would be (1) a serious Euro appreciation; (2) a Yen appreciation against the dollar & the RMB (pulled by the Euro appreciation); (3) a RMB strong appreciation against the $. Until now, events are unfolding as I predicted (except there’s still some uncertainty on the US rate of growth), so I stick to these forecast. I think Chinese monetary authorities still think they can manage the situation through tax-subsidy and regulatory means, but will soon find out it is now too late. So if we want to figure out what will China do, we should focus on monetary pressures in China. This is THE indicator to watch. And the related forward-looking proxy is a break through of the Yen/$ exrate below 114. That will be the signal: k-inflows in China will grow, and the gov. will abandon its $ peg. I think those who argue that the probability of such an outcome is “low” should also argue that monetary pressures in China are still manageable. So what is your view on current Chinese monetary conditions and outlook?
Reply to this comment By gheorghius on 2007-04-12 11:45:17
Very interesting thoughts, as always. I think it's worth keeping in mind that the Chinese reserve buildup has significant strategic benefits, which in my view dwarf the inevitable paper losses. China is now in a far better position to control her own destiny in the region both economically and politically. Combine this with a significant military buildup, and the pattern is clear. The Chinese are buying the right and the might to choose their own path. FX losses are just a cost of doing business.
Reply to this comment By Estragon on 2007-04-12 11:47:29
Since today seems to be a day for asking questions of each other, I would ask why people think China buys dollars. I doubt that they are doing it to wind up the Americans. It presumably has something to do with the continued dominance of the dollar as a medium of exchange, which makes the US the international bank. If so, as I keep saying, managed properly this should be good for America. Banking is good business, especially for a monopoly provider. By the way, Macro Man, you probably don’t need to know because you can afford the real thing, but the best place I have found to buy fake Rolex watches is Manhattan.
Reply to this comment By RebelEconomist on 2007-04-12 12:02:38
[Brad]and i don't quite share your idea that the fall in value of China's paper assets is of no concern. Dave - Reply I didn't say that the monetary value of US Dollar foreign reserves was of no concern to the Chinese government, but it has never been the paramount concern. Under the US dollar-centered global financial regime, what other alternatives were available to the Chinese for the acquisition of strategic commodities and to modernize their industrial base. Saudi Arabia doesn't accept yuan in exchange for oil and gas. Only very recently have Russia, Venezuela, and Iran accepted payment in Euros with each of those respective nations earning the hostility of the US government. China also hopes that, if and when the dollar-centered global financial regime unravels, it will have an economy sufficiently developed to permit the yuan to takes its place among the world’s major currencies without the need for external backing that the country’s dollar reserves currently provide. Obviously, there is every reason for the US government to be happy with Bretton Woods II regime since Americans reap vast benefits from the arrangement, most importantly in the ability to finance trade deficits with impunity—what French economist Jacques Rueff famously labelled ‘deficits without tears’. Among other things, that allows Washington to project military power around the world at little real financial cost, since the necessary money is first created by the Federal Reserve, then exchanged for goods and services from foreigners, and borrowed back by the us Treasury.
Reply to this comment By Dave Chiang on 2007-04-12 12:48:12
DC -- if China quietly came to the saudis and offered RMB (interest bearing RMB) in exchange for Saudi oil, my bet is that the Saudis would take them. presto -- instant diversification. China tho wants to limit the pace of its $ accumulation (to the extent possible within the constraints of its currency regime) so to my knowledge it prefers to pay in $. If it paid in RMB, it would effectively be stuck with the $. tis equivalent to paying in $ and then allowing the saudis to bring $ into China for RMB (getting around the capital controls). the net result is a smaller net BoP outflow from China. (and then if the Saudis with their interest bearing rMB wanted to engage in some quiet swaps for $ I would love to do business with them -- i could become an i banker in no time. the arbritrage opportunities are amazing -- RMB+3% interest (i.e. exposure to RMB upward appreciation) is a lot better than you can get on a long rMB position in the NDF market ...
Reply to this comment By bsetser on 2007-04-12 12:57:50
Re: intellectual property- I tend to think it is relatively small beer in the grand scheme of things. I was just trying to get DC to concede that China "does something wrong", as he refuses to acknowledge that Chinese policy bears any responsibility for global imbalances. IP was just the lowest hanging fruit I could think of. RE, the literal answer to why China buys dollars is rather simple. It's the same reason why the National Bank of Hungary buys euros- it's where the liquidity is. Anyone wanting to buy or sell RMB has to do it through the dollar. The question is why China (and, lest anyone think China is being unfairly picked on, Russia, India, et al) buys SO MANY dollars- particularly, as has been the case recently, when the pace of FX appreciation has slowed.
Reply to this comment By Macro Man on 2007-04-12 12:58:27
http://www.feer.com/articles1/2007/0704/free/p036.html - Of the 3,220 Chinese citizens with a personal wealth of 100 million yuan ($13 million) or more, 2,932 are children of high-level cadres. http://www.economist.com/daily/columns/asiaview/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8993729 - Behind every great fortune in China may lie a crime.
Reply to this comment By Guest on 2007-04-12 12:59:49
[ Brad ] if China quietly came to the saudis and offered RMB (interest bearing RMB) in exchange for Saudi oil, my bet is that the Saudis would take them. presto -- instant diversification. Dave - Reply Saudi Arabia has had ample opportunity to accept Euros for oil, but only the US government has the military power projection capability to provide physical security for the Saudi Royal family regime. The close relationship between power brokers in Washington (ie. Kissinger ) and the Saudi Royal family has been well documented. I recall the Chinese Foreign Minister once stating that the Arab Gulf Oil states were firmly in the American sphere of military and economic influence. The Chinese have made more significant economic inroads into Africa, Southeast Asia and Latin America, but not the Arab Gulf oil states. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait won't be accepting Euros or yuan anytime in the forseeable future.
Reply to this comment By Dave Chiang on 2007-04-12 13:14:40
Wow. $136B reserve increase. That works out to a $550B to $600B pace if this keeps up. I assume this will be shifted to the new investment company? If so, could we see US markets further decouple from reality? (In case anyone hasn't noticed, the Shanghai market hit a new high yesterday and they only had $100B injected due to share reforms.) Brad, interesting point on Taiwan's savings converting to RMB. Any data to back that up? Perhaps this is the "One Country, Two Systems" united front in action? 2008 is an election year in Taiwan as well and China would love to see more Taiwanese with RMB. On a related note, there is some speculation in WSJ recently that the days of HK$ are numbered. Could the same be said for NT$? Finally, I respect Jonathan Anderson's work a lot. So if he says odds of a one off revaluation are increasing, I believe it. How much does he anticipate the revaluation to be?
Reply to this comment By LC on 2007-04-12 13:39:07
LC WSJ speculation recently that the days of HK$ is numbered is flat wrong. The former Portugal administered, tiny Macao which is roughly the size of New York Manhattan island also retains its separate currency and monetary policy. Macao's economy has mostly gambling casinos and I won't even bother to tell you what the Cantonese meaning of the word Macao means (ie. hint - its a four letter word that starts with a "F"). The Hong Kong Monetary Authority (HKMA) retains an independent currency policy from mainland China. In fact, several British nationals still serve on the HKMA governing board. Only in the foreign affairs sphere does Hong Kong defer to the Chinese Central government.
Reply to this comment By Dave Chiang on 2007-04-12 13:58:02
LC - no data, just a hunch (one consistent with the global bop tho -- taiwan has a surplus ... ) DC -- Methinks you are missing some growing signs of frictions/ fissures in the us-saudi relationship. it ain't what it once was ... and for what it is worth, kuwait is even more firmly in the US military sphere of influence than Saudi (tis the staging ground for iraq/ hosts a huge us base/ air presence) and it recently indicated that it isn't in the us financial sphere of influence (its said the KIA portfolio mirrors world GDP).
Reply to this comment By bsetser on 2007-04-12 14:12:41
DC, Brad: All this speculation on HK$ and NT$ brings me to another point: so long as everyone in greater China region pegs to the dollar, then their economic decision making is not independent. (Sorry, I am slow to get the point.) As the RMB peg rises, HK$ and NT$ will also need to rise or suffer inflationary consequences. I think that issue is already present in HK (as WSJ article pointed out.) At some point though, these pegs will no longer be to the dollar but to RMB. The more ominous downside for US is if some of the other economies demand debt payments in RMB, the burden gets propotionally heavier. That's another reason to prevent a disorderly exit from BWII.
Reply to this comment By LC on 2007-04-12 14:23:49
The medium of exchange point is interesting, because it is important to understand what China would be giving up if it diversified out of the dollar. Macro Man: Can you exemplify, or better still quantify, what you mean by the liquidity advantage of the dollar? Even if the world is falling apart, I would have thought that the additional transactions costs of using say, euros, were negligible in comparison to the risks of holding the currency of a country with such large deficits, no? I know that most currencies trade against dollars, but can euro-dollar ever be so illiquid that getting out of the euro is a problem? Dave Chiang: What advantage is it to the US if you can only buy oil with dollars? Can't you just hold euros until two days (ie the foreign exchange market settlement interval), or say three days to allow for problems, before you need to pay for the oil? I am trying to put myself into the position of a Chinese policymaker and wondering how they decide which currency to hold.
Reply to this comment By RebelEconomist on 2007-04-12 15:06:14
RE I was referring to the literal, prosaic meaning, in the sense of if I ask for a price in €/CNY...there really isn't one. I can leg into it, to be sure. But the literal reason that China buys so many dollars is that it's the only thing that they can sell RMB against directly. Russia will be an instructive test case here. The RUB is pegged against a basket that has slightly more euros than dollars (in terms of percentage weight) , and their FX reserves are also much less dollar-centric than China. While the MICEX offers a EUR/RUB contract, it doesn't really trade.
Reply to this comment By Macro Man on 2007-04-12 16:14:19
"Incidentally, the rising $ value of US assets abroad doesn't get rid of the US need to borrow funds". No, but it makes these funds easier to obtain -
Reply to this comment By Gheorghius on 2007-04-12 20:30:48
Macro Man, I see what you mean, but the fact that euro-RMB does not trade directly does not seem to be a strong reason for not holding euros, as the euro-dollar leg is little impediment, especially if you can do both legs practically simultaneously to avoid market risk. I find it hard to believe that liquidity can be a good reason for the Chinese to hold so many dollars when the chance of needing that liquidity is so remote. Maybe it is just that, for all its faults, America is still the safest place to hold contingency savings indefinitely, given its stable government, reliable legal system, lack of corruption and secure borders. Or maybe the steadiness of the American consumer makes it a better economy in which to stabilise your export prices. I am not sure.
Reply to this comment By RebelEconomist on 2007-04-13 01:54:51
Oh, I agree, RE. I was being deliberately literal. Insofar as a reserve currency is meant to be a store of value, or enable one to purchase things that are stores of value, the dollar still looks good. Hard stuff like commodities are typically priced in dollars, and the US has the deepest single country asset market in the world. And to head Dave C. off at the pass- whatever misdemeanors the US policymaking authorities have committed over the past 5-10 years, they pale in comparison with those commititted by the reserve currency alternatives- Japan and various and sundry governments of some of the euro legacy economies.
Reply to this comment By Macro Man on 2007-04-13 06:59:12
I wonder if the big increase in reserves has anything to do with the increasing difficulty of pegging at 7.72 CNY/$.
Reply to this comment By MChilds on 2007-04-13 07:10:00
The US may have another plan with the dollar. By debasing the dollar, and perpetuating the yen carry trade, enormous pressure is put on the Euro. The European member states are chafing under the restrictions.
Reply to this comment By Guest on 2007-04-13 08:23:16
The liquidity argument for holding dollar reserves refers not so much to the currency mkt ... (... although, speaking of the currency mkt, China's currency is pegged to the US$, so intervention implies necessarily buying dollars in the first instance. China could then surely sell $ for Euros but - as BWS has pointed out many times - this would indirectly weaken the $ against the RMB, which China does not want. This weakening would trigger further intervention (so in the end the total amount held by China would rise a bit), although probably not much, as one can easily see by plugging in numbers and some previously estimated coefficients in a portfolio balance model.) The liquidity argument for holding dollar reserves refers rather to (short term) debt instruments; and here $ asset mkts are deeper than any other in the world. This seem to be a weak argument against the Euro (still more segmentedthan the US mkt, but quite deep as well). However CBs like to be free to intervene massively, if needed, by mobilising their reserves quickly without having to suffer price drops on those assets that they hold and are liquidating. China's reserves - it's true - are so hudge, and the pressure on its exrate peg - in current conditions!! - is on the upside: for both reasons, China has recognised that it does not need to hold all its reserves in liquid, low yielding, $ assets. Consequently, in the fall of 2006 China announced both the intention to diversify its reserves, and the creation of an ad hoc financial institution to manage part of its reserves. One may wonder why diversification attempts come so late in the game. China is a developing country, and knows it needs to learn a lot. That's one reason why China moves slowly. Another reason has to do with Chinese mentality, who gives priority to the very long run: China has time. And by the way, in the very long run (50 years or so), the $ bet may prove not to be a bad one!
Reply to this comment By Gheorghius on 2007-04-13 08:34:11
by the way, the liquidity argument for the corrency composition of official reserves provides a neat explanation of why the Yen is not a popular currency among Central Bankers, while the
Reply to this comment By Gheorghius on 2007-04-13 08:47:33
...uk pound is
Reply to this comment By Gheorghius on 2007-04-13 08:48:54
by Dan Norcini ....Today the ECB flexed its new muscle. When the euro equaled the dollar in outstanding value, the dollar slipped over the crevasse of the Black Hole of Calcutta, defined as .8230 support. Soon you will be looking back at 1.36 on the euro. Along with this development the sun begins to set on the power of the Federal Reserve as the power of the ECB rises. Today is a perfect example of the above. The ECB took a pass on increasing rates but Trichet said it is likely next month. Following this statement, down went the dollar. It didn’t end there. Trichet opined on Japan saying they were doing just fine and currencies should reflect their intrinsic economic worth, whatever that is. Up went the yen. By comparison Chairman Bernanke is not the rising sun. This is a natural development of the less egregious economic sins of Euroland versus the USA. What is being ignored due to rampant fear of the foreign is the rise of China as an economic powerhouse. Within four years both the ECB and the Fed will be observing the pronouncements of Chinese financial authorities. It is amazing when you see xenophobia at work - the eyes glass over, the brain synapses fire in all directions, resulting in no thought and a lot of emotion. Madness is a thing to behold. The US dollar is headed for .7200, the euro to $1.36, a quick hard down, and then well beyond on the upside. Gold is going to $761 but that is only for starters. The pendulum has gone full length for the dollar and is now headed back and then down. The euro has had only a positive pendulum experience. Both are feeling superior. One is right and the other is not. Both are in total denial because neither is the real hitter in this game. China is sneaking up. Trichet let his ego show today. Bernanke is yesterday’s news. That is the total story.... http://www.jsmineset.com/ARhome.asp?VAfg=1&RQ=EDL,1&AR_T=1&GID=&linkid=4580&T_ARID=4649
Reply to this comment By Guest on 2007-04-13 08:54:37
Gheorghius, Of course buying euros would not fit the dollar peg (or strictly a basket peg that seems to be dominated by the dollar!) but the question is why do the Chinese peg to the dollar. In my experience, the government bond markets in euros and yen are not significantly less liquid than in dollars, and are certainly more liquid than gilts, so I do not think that is the reason. I think that the euro is not yet regarded as fully secure (from time to time the Italians or the French talk about leaving it or fixing the ECB) and the yen is not such a useful currency while JGBs have a relatively low credit rating. Sterling just yields a lot!
Reply to this comment By RebelEconomist on 2007-04-13 11:32:35
"I see what you mean, but the fact that euro-RMB does not trade directly does not seem to be a strong reason for not holding euros, as the euro-dollar leg is little impediment, especially if you can do both legs practically simultaneously to avoid market risk. I find it hard to believe that liquidity can be a good reason for the Chinese to hold so many dollars when the chance of needing that liquidity is so remote" What u wrote above is not about "why do the Chinese peg to the dollar"! This latter is another question! You may read some McKinnon stuff on the micro (trade in goods & services) advantages of pegging to the dollar. "Of course buying euros would not fit the dollar peg"... not really! The Chinese ARE buying lots of Euros (though less than $s). Regards
Reply to this comment By Guest on 2007-04-13 12:06:38
Guest, The Chinese can buy euros as long as their peg to the dollar is held, and they reportedly do so, but I think I agree with Gheorghius that it would mean that they acquiring even more reserves. I am not sure why they do not peg to a basket including a large share of euros though. Thanks for the steer towards McKinnon.......I would be grateful for more details of where he wrote about this. I would certainly read it.
Reply to this comment By RebelEconomist on 2007-04-13 16:07:59

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